Deposits from bad practices no longer insured: PDIC

Posted at 09/02/2009 12:44 PM | Updated as of 09/02/2009 1:26 PM

MANILA - The amended charter of the Philippine Deposit Insurance Corp. (PDIC) has excluded certain products from the benefits of deposit insurance, a move seen by the state-run firm to protect Filipinos from unscrupulous bank owners.

In a statement, the PDIC said deposits derived from unsafe and unsound practices are not covered by deposit insurance as stated in its new charter, which took effect last June.

"We championed this amendment to the PDIC Charter because it safeguards against the maneuverings of individuals and entities that victimize depositors who put their trust in the banking system," PDIC President Jose Nograles said.

Citing Circular 640 of the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP), the PDIC said unsafe and unsound banking practices include "excessive reliance on large, high-cost, or volatile deposits or borrowings," "engaging in speculative and hazardous investment policies," "paying excessive cash dividends in relation to the capital position, earnings capacity, and asset quality of the bank," among others.

Aside from this, the PDIC said the revised charter does not cover deposits that are "unfunded, fictitious, or fraudulent," as well as those which are determined to be the proceeds of an unlawful activity as defined by Republic Act 9160 or the Anti-Money Laundering Act. The PDIC said it is now authorized under the law to issue a cease and desist order against such deposit accounts or transactions.

"Given a strengthened Charter, PDIC is adequately equipped to combat fraudulent, unsafe, and unsound enterprises that compromise the stability of our banking system and take advantage of the deposit insurance system provided by the government," Nograles said.

The PDIC has been on a roll with its campaign on safe and responsible banking, following the recent closure of the controversial Legacy banks. Earlier, Nograles said the Legacy issue started because depositors believed in something that is "too good to be true," a scenario that the state-run firm hopes to avoid in the near future.

Based on senate investigations and cases filed by regulators at the Department of Justice, depositors were enticed with Legacy's higher-yielding financial products or through its aggressive marketing promotions that offer non-cash incentives for deposits.

The Legacy Group acquired public funds and moved them around through a web of companies engaged not just in rural banking, but also in pre-need, credit cards, motor vehicle sales, realty, among others.

The BSP has referred to these as unsafe and unsound banking practices.


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PDIC delay payouts to claimants!

Why don't us Depositors, trust that the PDIC will pay out our validated Claims, by end of October, like Nograles promised?

This was an announcement on the PDIC website:-
"PDIC Starts Mailing Payment to Legacy Depositors"
May 26, 2009
http://www.pdic.gov.ph/index.php?nid1=8&nid2=1&nid=398&rend=5&page=1

"PDIC announced that in the course of its deposit examination, it has validated 51,180 deposit accounts representing 37.56% of the total deposits of P14 billion. The validated accounts amount to P1.76 billion as of May 15, 2009".

So they had already 'validated' some Php1.76B as of 15 May.

Then a more recent update they state this:-

"PDIC Approves P2.3-B Payment to Legacy Depositors"
http://www.pdic.gov.ph/index.php?nid1=8&nid2=1&nid=390&rend=5&page=1
September 08, 2009
"The Philippine Deposit Insurance Corporation (PDIC) reported that while its operations had been hampered by the big volume of Legacy bank accounts, missing bank records and several suspected fraud cases, it has already approved payment of claims to Legacy Bank depositors amounting to almost P2.26 billion. Of this amount, PDIC has paid almost P1.43 billion to Legacy Bank depositors while the balance worth P834.3 million is currently being scheduled for release".

So the PDIC have only managed to pay 'almost' Php1.43B to us Legacy Bank Depositors (yet there were Php1.76B of validated Accounts on 15 May). So in 4 months period PDIC failed to actually pay all the Accounts they said were already validated some 4 month previously. let alone any new validations completed during that 4 months.

Examine why it takes the PDIC so long?

They write a Letter, and it carries a date. Then they take their time over mailing it to the Claimant. Thgere are plenty of Claimants stating the Makati postmark Date is often up to a month later than the date on the letter they received, perhaps up to another month nearly, at their local Post Office if in the provinces.

So ignoring those delays for a moment, such letter might request that a Notazized Affidavit is required, before they can finally validate the Claim and make the payment and a 'deadline' is given, to return such documentation. This is often only a few days later than when it was actually received. If one uses a Courier, it is delivered to the PDIC address, and this is confirmed by the 'Tracking' of the Courier.

So what 'excuse' does the PDIC have for still not having made the payment following receipt of the requested document from the Claimant before the deadline, despite the Delays by PDIC and Delays by Phil Post in getting it to the Claimant. How can they 'justify taking over 2 months, since they received the Document as evidenced by the Tracking.

In some cases it is now coming up to 7 months since Claims were filed for some Banks, and not a single communication in respect of the Claim.

Clearly the PDIC are ignoring their mandate under Section 14 of the PDIC Charter.


PDIC delay payouts to claimants!

Why don't us Depositors, trust that the PDIC will pay out our validated Claims, by end of October, like Nograles promised?

This was an announcement on the PDIC website:-
"PDIC Starts Mailing Payment to Legacy Depositors"
May 26, 2009
http://www.pdic.gov.ph/index.php?nid1=8&nid2=1&nid=398&rend=5&page=1

"PDIC announced that in the course of its deposit examination, it has validated 51,180 deposit accounts representing 37.56% of the total deposits of P14 billion. The validated accounts amount to P1.76 billion as of May 15, 2009".

So they had already 'validated' some Php1.76B as of 15 May.

Then a more recent update they state this:-

"PDIC Approves P2.3-B Payment to Legacy Depositors"
http://www.pdic.gov.ph/index.php?nid1=8&nid2=1&nid=390&rend=5&page=1
September 08, 2009
"The Philippine Deposit Insurance Corporation (PDIC) reported that while its operations had been hampered by the big volume of Legacy bank accounts, missing bank records and several suspected fraud cases, it has already approved payment of claims to Legacy Bank depositors amounting to almost P2.26 billion. Of this amount, PDIC has paid almost P1.43 billion to Legacy Bank depositors while the balance worth P834.3 million is currently being scheduled for release".

So the PDIC have only managed to pay 'almost' Php1.43B to us Legacy Bank Depositors (yet there were Php1.76B of validated Accounts on 15 May). So in 4 months period PDIC failed to actually pay all the Accounts they said were already validated some 4 month previously. let alone any new validations completed during that 4 months.

Examine why it takes the PDIC so long?

They write a Letter, and it carries a date. Then they take their time over mailing it to the Claimant. Thgere are plenty of Claimants stating the Makati postmark Date is often up to a month later than the date on the letter they received, perhaps up to another month nearly, at their local Post Office if in the provinces.

So ignoring those delays for a moment, such letter might request that a Notazized Affidavit is required, before they can finally validate the Claim and make the payment and a 'deadline' is given, to return such documentation. This is often only a few days later than when it was actually received. If one uses a Courier, it is delivered to the PDIC address, and this is confirmed by the 'Tracking' of the Courier.

So what 'excuse' does the PDIC have for still not having made the payment following receipt of the requested document from the Claimant before the deadline, despite the Delays by PDIC and Delays by Phil Post in getting it to the Claimant. How can they 'justify taking over 2 months, since they received the Document as evidenced by the Tracking.

In some cases it is now coming up to 7 months since Claims were filed for some Banks, and not a single communication in respect of the Claim.

Clearly the PDIC are ignoring their mandate under Section 14 of the PDIC Charter.


Jose Rizal, we need you again!

Do those that have strived so hard to climb the political ladder to attain their own elitism for their own gains have no shame at all?

Jose Rizal would turn in his grave now if he knew how the political elite were rewarding themselves at the expense of those that they are mandated to serve. Shame on them!

If you want to have your deposited money protected by a government that regulates and oversees its member banks, look to somewhere like Spain (yes, S P A I N) and its Deposit Guarantee Fund (FGD). For sure, you will see the return of your deposited monies should a CDLA character be allowed to manifest himself there.

While on the subject of CDLA, why is this man not in prison? It appears that he must have purchased his own insurance, with depositor money, to escape punishment.

It is obvious that the lack of urgency and loop-holed evidence to be used in any prosecution against him is merely a smokescreen for his escape from any form of justice. Who did CDLA take out his insurance policy with? It does not take genius minds to figure that one out.

Madoff, the USA equivalent of our own CDLA will not see daylight again. There, justice is served correctly and swiftly. I cannot say the same for the Philippines. It appears that here the theft of money on a grand scale is tolerated and its ability to flourish has a very much darker side.

Meanwhile, depositors who PDIC are mandated to protect, continue to be treated abysmally.

So, instead of depositing your money in a Philippines based bank, with a PDIC poster proudly displayed in its premises, consider moving your money to a country like Spain that offers REAL depositor protection. Jose Rizal would have something to say about that, I’m sure.

How far has this country really moved forward?


PDIC stalling

The complains of several depositors are true.. PDIC is stalling in payment of claims. The Legacy banks closed in December, it is not Sept and many are not paid yet.

PDIC has resorted to several delaying tactics like asking several affidavits from depositors just to prolong the process.. and even for those accounts that has complete proof/requirements, they also ask for affidavit.

I just want to expose that none who submitted their affidavits have been paid yet as because a certain female head of the department who approves the affidavit are not signing them.

It has been revealed that the subtmitted affidavits are just sitting on her desk waiting to be signed.. she is causing the bottle neck.. what is she waiting for?

Shall we depositors band together, pool our funds so we may file a case against PDIC for sitting on our claims?

In the past, the supreme court has sided with the depositors as PDIC has the mandate to pay us even if the closed bank has missing documents.. as it is not the depositor's fault if the closed bank didn't take care of those documents


PDIC is stalling Legacy claim payments

The complains of several depositors are true.. PDIC is stalling in payment of claims. The Legacy banks closed in December, it is not Sept and many are not paid yet.

PDIC has resorted to several delaying tactics like asking several affidavits from depositors just to prolong the process.. and even for those accounts that has complete proof/requirements, they also ask for affidavit.

I just want to expose that none who submitted their affidavits have been paid yet as because a certain female head of the department who approves the affidavit are not signing them.

It has been revealed that the subtmitted affidavits are just sitting on her desk waiting to be signed.. she is causing the bottle neck.. what is she waiting for?

Shall we depositors band together, pool our funds so we may file a case against PDIC for sitting on our claims.

In the past, the supreme court has sided with the depositors as PDIC has the mandate to pay us even if the closed bank has missing documents.. as it is not the depositor's fault if the closed bank didn't take care of those documents


PDIC is stalling Legacy claim payments

The complains of several depositors are true.. PDIC is stalling in payment of claims. The Legacy banks closed in December, it is not Sept and many are not paid yet.

PDIC has resorted to several delaying tactics like asking several affidavits from depositors just to prolong the process.. and even for those accounts that has complete proof/requirements, they also ask for affidavit.

I just want to expose that none who submitted their affidavits have been paid yet as because a certain female head of the department who approves the affidavit are not signing them.

It has been revealed that the subtmitted affidavits are just sitting on her desk waiting to be signed.. she is causing the bottle neck.. what is she waiting for?

Shall we depositors band together, pool our funds so we may file a case against PDIC for sitting on our claims.

In the past, the supreme court has sided with the depositors as PDIC has the mandate to pay us even if the closed bank has missing documents.. as it is not the depositor's fault if the closed bank didn't take care of those documents


PDIC thieves

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One must wonder how much money has gone from PDIC funds into the back pockets of Nograles and his friends. For years they have collected funds from the banks in the Philippines, but yet when that money is needed to pay the depostiors it's suddenly all gone. Of course they will not admit to that. They blame false accounts, bad records, in depth checking for fraudulent claims. But we all know the truth, Nograles the scammer has been putting the money into his own accounts and his friends accounts, and just like every other agency in the Philippines they make themselves rich and to hell with everyone else. From the President down, everyone steals from the innocent Filipino, and because the judges and the Police are in their back pockets as well, no one touches them.

Celso stole a fortune but is still a free man, where else in the world would that happen. Listen to the constant lies that PDIC tell the investors every time they check on the status of their accounts.
"It's in FFV sir" "It's in FFV sir" "Sooon you will be paid Maam" "Soon you will be paid Maam" "Sorry Sir, you're back in FFV Sir, you will be paid next month Sir" One of the main qualifications to get a job in PDIC is to be able to lie and not laugh on the phone, that's why Nograles made it to the top


PDIC = Phantom Deposit Insurance Corruption

PDIC = Phantom Deposit Insurance Corruption

Why? Because it does not exist as an entity that comes anywhere close to fulfilling its mission and vision statements:

PDIC official Vision statement:
“We will be a world-class organization in depositor protection.”

That statement above is an absolute joke. Ask those that have had any dealings with ‘real’ deposit insurance organizations e.g. FDIC (USA), FSCS (UK), etc. and how they compare to their unfortunate introduction to this farce of a deposit insurance ‘disorganization’ that the undeserving people of the Philippines have been lumbered with. If PDIC think that they are anywhere remotely close to becoming world-class then they are certainly not very well travelled. World-class does not include unnecessary red tape, ignored communications and victimization of those that are supposed to be protected and compensated.

I could go on to tear apart the PDIC official Mission statement also. That in itself merely exists to instil (false) confidence in a depositing public, that their hard-earned money and life savings are safe deposited in banks overseen by these jokers. Instilling false confidence via misleading statements and over-exaggeration is often referred to as a ‘con’.

Excuse given by PDIC is that recent events have resulted in an ‘unprecedented’ number of accounts being examined and processed.

The fact is that a few small banks have closed, leaving PDIC exposed to something in the region of 14 billion pesos. A large amount of money on deposit you may think. No! How much do you think would be on deposit in commercial banks such as BPI, BDO, PNB, etc., and how many accounts would need to be examined and processed? If the volumes that PDIC are encountering as a result of the closure of Legacy banks is described as ‘unprecedented’, how would they describe the (very possible) closure of much much bigger banks? ‘Astronomical’ springs to mind.

Should the unfortunate happen, do you think that your own deposit in your bank will be returned in full, and quickly, by a world-class deposit insurer? If you move in the correct circles then maybe, otherwise don’t hold your breath. Sleeping well at night while your money remains inside a bank overseen by an incompetent government organization is a thing of the past.


This is stupid

Does PDIC really think depositors are stupid? It's been almost a year and still thousands of people have not seen one centavo of insurance from them! And now they want to put the blame on the depositors for their recklessness? Remember, it is their job along with BSP to assess if a certain bank is for real or if they are double crossing their depositors! When people see PDIC stickers in the banks doors, it means that NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BANK they will get their insurance! But what is happening now? PDIC is robbing people of their trust in the Philippine Banking System!



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