IT expert: Full automated polls impossible
MANILA, Philippines - Commission on Elections (Comelec) officials on Thursday declared the testing and sealing of Precinct Count Optical Scan (PCOS) machines in Metro Manila--counting in the cities of Paranaque, Makati and Marikina--a 100% success.
"It's all systems go for the election officers. We're prepared for D-day May 10," Comelec-National Capital Region (NCR) Election Director Atty. Michael Dioneda told ANC's "The Rundown" on Thursday.
He added reports from the field suggest testing and sealing has been successful because new flashcards are all functioning and reading accurately. Dioneda added he expects other areas to get the reconfigured compact flash cards by Saturday.
But amid such delays, and with limited time left to election day, Halalang Marangal secretary-general Roberto Verzola expressed doubts that full automated polls are even possible.
"We are a bit worried that the compact flash cards will not reach their destination on time," Verzola said on ANC's "The Rundown" on Thursday.
"It is our wish that it would push through, but if we look at our options, I'm very pessimistic that the automated system can push through in most precincts. And the manual count has back-up for 30%, so there's a question mark for the remaining 70%. We're down to a no-option situation it seems... We have been painted into a corner, we are now in a corner where every option has been shut," he added.
Concern in ARMM
Halalang Marangal, which monitored the 2007 elections, aims to achieve honest elections and truthful statistics. But amid delays in setting up the system for automated elections, and apparent inaccuracies in the system, Verzola predicted the automated elections may be characterized by fraud.
"We are concerned that some of the provinces they said the flashcards would not reach are precisely those areas that were problem areas in 2007, 2004, some ARMM [Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao] provinces. You can expect cheating to happen again for these provinces," Verzola said
He cited the possibility many of these precincts may see armed goons take over the conduct of elections, or the election will be foregone altogether. He also noted how local officials have managed to manipulate voting,
"That's been done routinely in the past, and the same can happen this year. Nothing prevents them from shading those ballots themselves," Verzola noted.
Riddled with inaccuracies
Citing recent gross errors encountered by the automated system, which called for a reconfiguration of 76,000 compact flash cards, Verzola said the machine is also capable of manifesting subtle inaccuracies with nonetheless far-reaching implications.
Asked by Verzola how Comelec measured the percentage of accuracy of the PCOS machines, Dioneda could only refer to the day's assessment. "I can only talk about my experience. Today, I was in Makati High School. It's 100% accurate. All votes were counted," he said.
"A 10-ballot test set is not enough to measure the accuracy that was specified by the COMELEC which was 99.95%," Verzola countered. "When I did the computation, you need 1,762 ballots to test with a 95% level of confidence to meet the specification. A 1-2% inaccuracy can make a big difference in very close contests," he said.
Manual count
Amid such reservations, Verzola believes the Comelec should review its rules to accommodate a checking mechanism that prioritizes accuracy over speed, and hold a manual count of the votes.
"Comelec should've prepared for the 100% possibility of a manual count as a back-up system, as proposed by other groups. It does not mean we've abandoned automation, but it's a double check." Verzola added.
Even if the Supreme Court were to overturn the Comelec's decision junking a manual count of the votes, Verzola said it would be too late in the day to put the process in place.
"If anything comes out of it, it's going to be a post-mortem analysis that can be analyzed after the elections. Today is a bad time to do post-mortem analysis," Verzola said, citing how all stakeholders are still trying to feel their way through the automated election system (AES).
72-hour proclamation: What's the rush?
Meantime, Verzola questioned why Comelec should rush to proclaim the poll winners 72 hours after the polls.
"The Comelec should not be in such a hurry to proclaim because we have until June 30 before these officials end their terms," Verzola said. "The Comelec can set a non-extendable deadline. Let's say one week before June 30. Whoever is considered winner then, they can be proclaimed. But that gives us a month to double check things because machines can make mistakes, fraud can happen. After a candidate is proclaimed, it will be very hard, if at all, to reverse the proclamation."
But Dioneda said the poll body is mandated to proclaim the winners by May 13 or 14.
"It's a matter of giving the complainant a chance to air his protest and give due course to it. Anyway, the period is June 30. Unfortunately, in the general instructions, these issues are not pre-proclamation issues, and the winner will be declared immediately after the votes have been tallied." Dioneda explained.
The sanctity of the ballot
"Automation can help solve our past problems but needs to be used properly. If used in the wrong way, then it can worsen the situation and make cheating easier," Verzola noted. He cited the case of automated elections in the United States:
"The U.S. 2000 and 2004 polls are increasingly seen as stolen elections, and these were done with automated elections, so it's not automatic that when we use automation, we will solve the cheating. They have to be applied in a mindful way, in a transparent way, and so far, we have not seen it in the AES system we're using today."
With the uncertainties hounding the country's first fully-automated polls, Verzola said voters must guard the election process to ensure the sanctity of the ballot.
"What we should be doing is calling people to realize that no machine can help us stop cheating. It's the people themselves, vigilant and asserting their own democratic power as a people that can stop cheating," Verzola said. "I think the people can follow their conscience in voting, and make sure there are poll watchers, and report to election watchdogs in case the ER [election return] can't be relied upon anymore when it's been compromised."
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TO ALL: EITHER PRO-NOYNOY OR ANTI-NOYNOY:
LET US NOW CALL NOYNOY - MR. PRESIDENT
LET US NOW CALL MAR - MR. VICE-PRESIDENT
Let us now forget politics and move on.
LAST CALL FOR MAY 1OTH ELECTION
For whatever it’s worth, consider this a final appeal before you go to the polls on Monday: Do not or never ever in your mind vote for Manuel Villaroyo or Erap Estrada.
Do not vote for Manny Villaroyo and Erapoyo because they are corrupt and incompetent. They have done nothing, but misery and bad, to deserve your vote; they will most likely do corruption and will steal more —which most certainly cannot be good—if he becomes president.
Do not vote for Manny Villaroyo and Erap Estrada because they are nothing but an opportunist and leeches in the society. They are heavily indebted to their relatives,cronies, political advisers like Gloria Arroyo and the gang, command-vote buying and financial backers, all of whom will most likely call the parasites and leeches of politics.
Make the important decisions of who we want to rule our beloved country - VOTE for Noynoy Aquino and Mar Roxas tandem) you will be seeing the change if these two will become the leader of our country.
Do not vote for Manny Villaroyo because of the continuing injustice; C5 scandal and the land grabbing from the poor citizen. As a Senator, Manny Villaroyo together with his cronies President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo in the “Hello Garci” scandal because they needed Mrs. Arroyo’s help to get the Villaroyo's family off the hook in the C5 scandal and land grabbing crimes he and his empire have committed.
When it became clear that the family could not wiggle out of the injustice and the oppressed poor farmers? This poor farmers would be forced instead to give up the lands as their only way of living, It's time to take Manny Villaroyo to court and may he serve and long awaiting jail time for the crime he committed.
Voting for Manny Villaroyo or Erap Estrada as president will continue the farce of Land grabbing, stealing, bribery and corruption for another 4 years in office,
Do not vote for Manny Villaroyo or Erap Estrada because they are liars, opportunist and corrupt politicians in history.
Do not vote for Manny Villaroyo or Erapoyo trapo because they also lied about the security stock exchange scandal . To this day, Manny Villaroyo has not explained and was mute about the issues that he is implicated to and would not want to answer any questions regarding their involvement.
Do not vote for Villaroyo because he is a liar two-faced and traditional politician who is a great pretender as poor and he will say anything to a particular group and buy their votes to get elected as president. He keeps the progressive pro-choice advocates believing that he is for contraception (as he was in the House) and claims to be as his way of getting the votes when he is talking to the Church groups and media. BE CAREFUL OF THIS MAN.
Manny Villaroyo is also willing to dump his long-suffering partner Loren Legarda for Binayorro another pathetic infidels who has nothing but to air out dirty laundry in public just to get the sympathy of voters. But alas, Mar will win anyway
DO NOT LISTEN TO JAIHO because he was paid with huge amount of money from the Villaroyo and like Willie Revillame he is pushing for the opportunist and liar Manny Villaroyo. Let’s make sure that Manny Villaroyo and Erapoyo trapo will not win, if only because you really want to know if they can lead our country to install them in Malacañang, just like their Master Gloria Arroyo the pandak. For one thing, Erapoyo is been proven criminal and was impeach for doing so. Manny Villaroyo will follow suit when new administration kick in. Manny will be kaput and we all hope that the new administration will not pardon this criminal.
And don’t vote for Manny Villaroyo simply because you have fond memories of the scholarship award, and his throwing of money like water to people for them to believe that he is really for the poor? Not because you hate the current president, Manny Villaroyo and Erapoyo are no difference than Gloria Arroyo. They are all the same corrupt and opportunist.
Don’t vote for Manny Villaroyo and Erapoyo because they said, they will not steal again and would make our country a better place to live. Noynoy Aquino and Mar Roxas vow to curve corruption and will not steal because both are already rich and they are tired and sick of these anomaly and trademark of the corrupt politician in office today.
Everyone knows it is wrong to steal (but not for Manny Villaroyo and Erap Estrada because this is their hobby and way of living)—why would Noynoy be voted into office simply for promising to do what everyone should be doing? "THOU SHALL NOT STEAL" and NOYNOY AND MAR will not steal. THEIR GOAL IS TO CLEAN UP THE BAD IMAGE OF POLITICS IN THE PHILIPPINES AND I HOPE WE ARE ALL FOR IT. I KNOW I AM.....ARE YOU?
AND LASTlY, Please DON’T LISTEN to those corrupt politicians LOYALISTS who are running. THEY HAVE ONE INTENTION, to get your trust and Votes so they can continue their lifestyle of corruption and injustice.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND LET’S MAKE IT HAPPEN AND DO IT ALL TOGETHER.
LP STRAIGHT!
VOTE FOR NOYNOY AQUINO AND MAR ROXAS TANDEM FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT…
GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES…..
secretary-general Roberto
secretary-general Roberto Verzola ikaw ba ay tunay na IT Expert??? kung talagang IT Expert ka hindi mo ipupush ang manual count dahil IKAW MISMO alam mo na dyan ang talamak ang dayaan... siguro gusto mo lang manalo ang manok mo na si noynoy para naman mabawi mu ang investment mo sa pag-kampanya sa kanya???
malinaw ang sabi ng COMELEC kahapon..100% accurate ang tally of votes. Hindi ibig sabihin nyan eh di na sila magtetesting sa lahat ng naideliver na PCOS machines. FULL CYCLE TESTING ang ginagawa nila. Kung babatikos ka lang din naman eh siguraduhin mu na yung solusyon mo eh mas maganda sa AUTOMATION.
Kung ikaw na lang kaya ang maging programmer ng mga machines ng malaman mo kung gaano kahirap ang gumawa ng logical instructions?
RE: full automation impossible even in the U.S.
In response to Mr. Verzola's comment regarding to full automation is impossible even in the united states..for Mr. Verzola's information the 2000 and 2004 elections were not marred by cheating as suggested. the decision came down from the supreme court due to a deadlock, to even imply that it was because of automation is totally ridiculous!!..there is no evidence to support that and i highly doubt it that Mr. Verzola has can even back that up except for insinuations or hearsay..
Mr. Verzola before you make comparisons make sure you actually know your facts. Maybe you should look at entertaining the thought that its not automation that is the problem but the people that are actuallybehind it.
psych report ni abnoy
Mukhang totoo ang nasa Psych report. Iniisip ni Dakilang Tamad at Kalbo(NOYNOY) na kung hindi siya mananalo, magwawakas na ang mundo. Kaya kapag natalo siya, magtatawag ng People Power.
Sa lahat yata ng Aquino, si Noynoy lang ang BALIW.
Ngayon pa lang nakikita na natin ang maaaring mangyari kung maging Presidente ang baliw na ito. Ang isang Presidente, pinag-iisipang mabuti ang isang bagay bago gumawa ng hakbang. Hindi padalos-dalos ang isang Presidente dahil hindi lang isang tao ang maaapektuhan ng desisyon niya kundi milyon. Ang tulad ni Noynoy na kung hindi mapagbigyan sa kagustuhan ay magtatawag ng People Power kahit na maraming puwedeng masaktan ay hindi karapat-dapat sa pinakamataas na posisyon ng bansa. Dun na lang siya sa asylum. Kahit magsisigaw pa siya at magbanta ng kung ano-ano, walang sisita sa kanya. Wala rin ibang masasaktan sa kanya.
Kaya kung manalo itong si Noynoy, ibig sabihin galit na galit na talaga sa atin ang diyos kaya hahayaan na niyang pamunuan tayo ng isang TAMAD na BALIW pa at baka sakaling magising ang marami sa atin at matutong tumingin sa nagawa ng kandidato at hindi sa pangalan at kasikatan.
"KUNG WALANG TAMAD, LAHAT YAYAMAN. Bumoto sa kandidatong may nagawa sa bayan. Huwag bumoto sa kandidatong BALIW!"
ABNOY
Mukhang totoo ang nasa Psych
by Psylom on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 08:03
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Mukhang totoo ang nasa Psych report. Iniisip ni Dakilang Tamad at Kalbo(NOYNOY) na kung hindi siya mananalo, magwawakas na ang mundo. Kaya kapag natalo siya, magtatawag ng People Power.
Sa lahat yata ng Aquino, si Noynoy lang ang BALIW.
Ngayon pa lang nakikita na natin ang maaaring mangyari kung maging Presidente ang baliw na ito. Ang isang Presidente, pinag-iisipang mabuti ang isang bagay bago gumawa ng hakbang. Hindi padalos-dalos ang isang Presidente dahil hindi lang isang tao ang maaapektuhan ng desisyon niya kundi milyon. Ang tulad ni Noynoy na kung hindi mapagbigyan sa kagustuhan ay magtatawag ng People Power kahit na maraming puwedeng masaktan ay hindi karapat-dapat sa pinakamataas na posisyon ng bansa. Dun na lang siya sa asylum. Kahit magsisigaw pa siya at magbanta ng kung ano-ano, walang sisita sa kanya. Wala rin ibang masasaktan sa kanya.
Kaya kung manalo itong si Noynoy, ibig sabihin galit na galit na talaga sa atin ang diyos kaya hahayaan na niyang pamunuan tayo ng isang TAMAD na BALIW pa at baka sakaling magising ang marami sa atin at matutong tumingin sa nagawa ng kandidato at hindi sa pangalan at kasikatan.
"KUNG WALANG TAMAD, LAHAT YAYAMAN. Bumoto sa kandidatong may nagawa sa bayan. Huwag bumoto sa kandidatong BALIW!"