What about the Filipinos killed in Tiananmen Square?

Posted at 08/29/2010 4:59 PM | Updated as of 09/12/2010 9:44 AM

MANILA, Philippines – The killing of 2 Filipinos in China in 2005 is the subject of e-mails, blogs and online forums amid Hong Kong’s sorrow and rage over the Manila bus siege which claimed the lives of 8 Hong Kong tourists last August 23.

On April 19, 2005, 25-year-old Wang Gongzuo of China killed Emmanuel “Bong” Madrigal and his teenage daughter, Regina Mia, using a scythe at Tiananmen Square in broad daylight. They were getting off a tourist bus when they were attacked.

Madrigal’s wife, Vivian, suffered injuries but their 2 other younger daughters were spared.

Wang’s motive for killing the Filipino father and daughter was not known, according to non-government organization Human Rights in China (HRIC).

Quoting the China Post, HRIC however said Wang wanted “to vent his anger against society.” Read here

A post, which can be read on the blog BarrioSiete.com as well as in an abs-cbnNEWS.com comment, pointed out similarities between the Tiananmen Square killing and the Manila siege.

Both incidents had vacationers on a tourist bus as victims. The killings also happened in public places of historical significance—Tiananmen Square in Beijing and Quirino Grandstand in Rizal Park, Manila.

“In both incidents, the state failed miserably in protecting innocent tourists,” the post claimed.

However, the post said that the incident happened in August instead of April 2005.

The post also noted discrepancies between the government's and public’s reaction.

The 2005 incident was allegedly toned down in China and the Philippines. A report however said the Madrigal family has reportedly requested for their privacy to be respected.  Read here

The 2010 hostage-taking, on the other hand, received international attention. President Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III has apologized for the incident while the Senate has launched a probe into the matter.

Netizens, meantime, are divided over the said parallelism between the 2005 and 2009 killings.

In the PinoyExchange.com forum “Lest we forget- Pinoy Tourists massacred in Tiananmen Square,” user Rational said that both incidents show that “security lapses happen everywhere.” Read here

Rational added, “The point is we acted reasonably to an isolated incident. They are over-reacting. They are calling our cops incompetent while theirs are too.”

Veranthe, however, said: “Look, it's their country, they can do what they want. If our government wanted to ban travel to China after that incident (which, I might point out, cannot be reasonably compared with what happened here; two against, what, eight?), it can. But it didn't. So what's your point?”

Commoner, on the other hand, notes there was no live coverage during the 2005 incident.

“Our Police had a chance to end the incident peacefully but they failed to do so. They had 10 freaking hours to do it. The cops in Beijing may or may not have a similar chance, nobody knows. But given the circumstances? A psychopath on a rampage in public versus a hostage taker inside a bus surrounded by Police? Common sense naman,” Commoner wrote.


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LET'S CALL IT QUITS

2 Pinoy killed in Tiananmen against 8 HK in Manila. How about adding the 5 Pinoy drug dealer and Chavit Singson's son Rep. Singson?

Now, it will be 8 Pinoy against 8 HK. Is this fair enough for the sensationalist Pinoy mediamen.

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hay naku...

ugaling pinoy talaga...pagmay problema imbis na mag tulungan ang ginagawa mag sisihan...lahat magaling...lahat tama...turo ng turo...kaya hindi tayo umuunlad...ngayong sirang sira na tayo sa paningin ng mga dayuhan dahil sa nangyaring hostage, imbis na depensahan natin ang ating bayan parang lalo pa nating dinudumihan ang imahe nating mga pinoy dahil sa mga negatibong komento ng kapwa pilipino....englis tayo ng englis..parang gusto pang ipaintindi sa lahat ng dayuhan ang mga personal na opinyun na hindi naman kailangan...mag isip-isip ho sana tayong lahat...


maayo gid

mas mabuti pa magkomut mo sa inyong tai, mga pinoy basa tai.

ikalat sa kalye. mga utok igit og tai.

atiklaham

The So-Called "Parallels" Between the Beijing & Manila Incidents

The parallels begin and end with the settings. Yes, both had innocent families as victims in a crime perpetrated by men removed from sanity. However, there is a crucial difference. In Beijing, the deranged man delivered death almost instantaneously, and it was the Madrigals’ misfortune that police weren’t nearby when they were attacked. At the Quirino Grandstand, the police had ten hours to pacify or neutralize the hostage-taker and save the tourists. They did neither. In Beijing, bystanders restrained the man until police could come over to arrest him. In Manila, bystanders watched with glee and took souvenir pictures before, during and after the hostage crisis. Two reporter friends of mine lost their personal belongings in a matter of seconds, when gunfire made everyone duck for cover. That’s Beijing, and that’s Manila.


Apology: What does it mean?

I thought the Philippines already apologized for the death of the hostages, so why bring this up? Why export bad manners and wretchedness? Some people are even talking about the incident as if it was a payback for past wrongs. Well, FYI, I personally condemn hostage taking in any form, let alone the death of innocent people.

Some of the attitude here is so pinoy.

Pag nag-apologize na, shut the f*ck up na and be sincere about it!

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I can't help but agree with

I can't help but agree with you...


that's why News is called "NEWS"

This article does not tell us any new information. I thought "news" was supposed to be new?

To the writer:

If the intention of this article was to remind the readers of an incident in the past, please provide a well-researched follow up piece to the story. Do not just rehash what is being circulated on the internet and on emails. Furthermore, do not cite a blog or a post that is unverified and anonymously written or simply expresses the opinion of another person who, by the way, was not involved in the incident. Otherwise, we are just fanning the flames of hate and misunderstanding (echoing the previous comments). This article is at best a matter of the writer's opinion and NOT the work of a journalist.

Please raise your editorial standards ABS-CBNNews.COM!


What about....

What about hundreds if not thousands of unreported/undocumented murder, rape, torture, abuse physically and mentally to our fellow Filipinos working in HK by their HK employer? Wake up people, it has been going on for decades! where is justice for them?
They called us monkeys for this incident after apologizing to this hostage taking tragedy.
And they still condemned the whole nation. I say fawk to all HK nationals, not enough pay back yet.
to all filipinos who quoted ashamed of being one, screw you. you are the real monkey sheltered by my country , time for you to find your own zoo!



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