'With Noynoy-Mar, unity of opposition now impossible'
MANILA - Some members of the opposition said Monday the formal announcement of the tandem of Sen. Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino III and Sen. Manuel "Mar" Roxas II as the Liberal Party's (LP) presidential and vice-presidential bets in 2010 closed the door to the possibility of a "united" opposition in the coming polls.
Sen. Francis "Chiz" Escudero, a member of the Nationalist People's Coalition (NPC), said that with the announcement of the Aquino-Roxas tandem, there will be no more talks for opposition parties to field a single standard-bearer in 2010.
Escudero said it could have been better for LP to have talked to other opposition parties first, particularly those open to unity talks, before the announcement.
Sen. Loren Legarda who is also a member of NPC, meanwhile, said that a united opposition front is now an "impossible" dream.
However, Legarda said she won't be affected by the LP tandem, since a possible Legarda-Escudero or Escudero-Legarda tandem would also be strong, based on the results of the 2007 senatorial elections.
Legarda also said that their party won't field a tandem that won't be a "sure win" in the elections.
She also said that the result would be a "friendly fight," where she said the level of debate would be high, and issues would be at the forefront of the campaign.
Estrada: I won't ask him to withdraw
Former President Joseph Estrada, meanwhile, said that with the announcement, he is still determined to run in 2010, but he said he won't ask Aquino to give way.
"I respect his being a candidate of the Liberal Party. In no way will I ask him to withdraw," Estrada said.
Despite this, he said that he and Aquino could talk about having a single lineup for senatorial candidates and local positions.
Among the things that Estrada and Aquino could talk about would be ways to protect their votes from fraud.
Estrada said that there is a big possibility for electoral fraud, despite an automated elections.
Villar's 'problem': VP pick
Sen. Manuel Villar's camp, meanwhile, is unperturbed by the development, said Nacionalista Party (NP) spokesperson Gilbert Remulla, who said their bet is the most qualified among the possible 2010 contenders.
However, Escudero said that Villar's biggest problem at present is that despite being among the first to announce his plan to run, he still has no possible running mate.
Legarda had the same opinion. "That's a problem. You can't run alone. Dapat meron kang credible team," she said.
Legarda, meanwhile, only laughed when asked to comment on the possibility of Villar getting comedian and TV host Willie Revillame as his running mate, saying she does not answer "issues" such as those.
Remulla, meanwhile, ended the speculation and said they are not even talking about getting Revillame as their vice presidential bet, saying they could instead get him as an endorser or campaigner. - With reports from Sheryll Mundo and Maricar Bautista, ABS-CBN News
Unity Talks With Whom?
TRAPO actually was coined in reference to two words "Traditional" and "Politicians". Street parliamentarians or activists used to call it "TradPol", and it became a common term specially during the Martial Law era. Then it was further shortened to "Trapo" or "dirty rag". But I definitely agree that this term should not be applied to people we considered as statesmen. And I further agree with rockymickeyquick that no more unity talks should take place specially with the TRAPOs, because you are more than right, it just might turn-out to be "transactional" in nature. As I posted "Wala nang libre sa panahon ngayon".
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opinyon ko lang ha pero lalong tumatagal nagiging patawa nalang si Manny Villar...
Jinggoy or "Kuya" Willie for VP
yahoo!
just a point of clarification
Mas maganda kundi matutuloy yong unity talks at baka "TRANSACTIONAL POLITICS" (TRAPO)lang ang paguusapan dyan!
Marami ang gumagamit sa isyung "TRAPO" ngunit kaunti lang ang nakaalam kung ano talaga ang masamang trapo. Ang karamihan sa paniniwala ay ang salitang trapo ay 'TRADITIONAL POLITICIANS". Hindi lahat ng traditional politicians ay masama kagaya ni Diokno, Tanada, mga Laurel, Salonga at marami pang iba. ANG MASAMANG TRAPO AY HINDI TAO KUNDI ISANG GAWAIN. Ang ibig sabihin ng masamang salitang trapo ay "TRANSACTIONAL POLITICS". Ang layunin nito ay, "hindi kita susuportahan kung wala akong kapalit na pakinabang sayo."
Napakalungkot na pinatunayan ng isang taga-Catholic Church na ang mga religious leaders (no exceptions) ay gumagawa din ng trapo o "transactional politics." Halimbawa sinabi kay Noynoy na hindi siya susuportahan ng Catholic Church kundi niya isusulong yong batas na gusto nilang mangyari.
Noynoy-Roxas ang balak kung iboto kaya nga sa aking personal na opinyon ay ayaw kung matuloy yong nakatakdang paguusap ni Noynoy at erap at tiyak na "TRAPO" O "TRANSACTIONAL POLITICS" na naman ang paguusapan!!!
Politician always have their own AGENDA'S!!!
Lets not FORGET that EVERYONE in the POLITICAL forum always have and always will be a SELFISH debate of who gets the higher position than the other... OPPOSITION or NOT.. Lets choose leaders that can lead and can give future to the NEXT GENERATIONS...
Ang TRAPO. Bow.
Ang TRAPO. Bow.
Ang TRAPO kahit ilang beses hugasan
dudumi lang ulit!
Ang TRAPO. Bow
Huwag na makipag-unity lalo na kung sa mga TRAPO din laang. sa bandang huli, hihingi lang ng kapalit ang mga yan. ika nga "Wala nang libre sa panahon ngayon". just stick with your good principles all the way.
Is it true
Legarda, meanwhile, only laughed when asked to comment on the possibility of Villar getting comedian and TV host Willie Revillame as his running mate, saying she does not answer "issues" such as those.
Breaking news : The strongest contenders for the vice presidential race are : Senator Loren Legarda,NPC. Honorable Willie Revillame, NP.
Hihihi.
Unite for NOY/MAR
If all the opposition will unite then our country have a chance for a change for the better. Escudero, Legarda, Erap, Villar, if you will not unite and support the NOY/MAR tandem, then you are only looking for your personal gain and not for the good of the country. Think about it you so called leaders if you love your country and the pilipino people, then unite, this is the only chance to beat the other side. Ex-Pres Estrada, regilion please stay out of politics.
niloloko niyo lang kami
Ay!!! nako, niloloko niyo lang ang sambayanang Pilipino, Si Villar pinag pipilian si Binay at si Jinggoy ANO BA YAN!!!!!!yang ang sabi ni Remulla papano ito mang yayari ang ama na si Erap tatakbo sa pag ka Presidente, madaling salita niloloko lang tayo nila mga kababayan.
Ano ba itong mga ginagawa hahayaan nalang ba natin itong ginagawa ng mga politiko sa ating mga ordinaryong Pinoy?????Mga walang Hiya kayo.
Unity of Opposition?????
Impossible to happen ,paano nalang ang mga trapos sa bawat hanay ehh gusto ring maka pwesto dahil kapos na sa budget.Kong kayoy naniniwala na kailangan natin ng reporma sa ating bansa ,bakit kasa-kasama niyo pa ang mga opportunista at mga dating official sa goberno na mga kurakot din.Tangagaling niyo lahat ang mga nasa hanay niyo dahil yan ang sisira sa kribilidad niyo bilang kandidato.
Makikipag -usap kayo kay Erap para ano?? para sa boto??, paano yong sinasabi niyo na pag babago, bagong paraan para mangurakot???