Santiago hits, Locsin defends martial law

Posted at 12/10/2009 10:41 PM | Updated as of 12/11/2009 3:26 PM

Biazon slams Devanadera for poor defense

MANILA, Philippines (1st UPDATE) - An apparent debate between Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago and Makati City Rep. Teodoro Locsin on martial law in Maguindanao stood out in the second day of Congress' joint session.

Santiago opposed while Locsin defended Proclamation 1959 declaring martial law and suspending the writ of habeas corpus in Maguindanao.

"It is not without irony that I stand here defending martial law. But I do defend it. Nowhere and at no time has martial law been justified nor based more sufficiently or incontrovertible facts.... Look at the bodies. Look at the arms stockpiles," Locsin told the plenary.

As publisher of the Philippines' Free Press, Locsin's father was among those detained by President Marcos when martial law was declared in September 1972. 

The Arroyo administration said the imposition of martial law in Maguindanao last December 4 was needed due to the presence of heavily armed groups which were preventing the enforcement of the law with regard to the massacre of 57 people--including 30 journalists--in the worst election-related violence in Philippine history.

"We are seeing Maguindanao and what we see, unless we are morally blind, cries out for martial law--at least for now," Locsin said.

Locsin called on the executive department to make sure real changes happen with the enforcement of martial law.

"Proceed to destroy the political infrastructure of one warlord family—though I hope not to favor the other one—and permanently dismantle their political influence in the province—though I hope not to establish the political influence of the other warlord clan,” Locsin said.

Santiago's lecture

Santiago, on the other hand, challenged the government to show physical proof of actual rebellion in Maguindanao to justify martial law as required by the Constitution.

She lectured the plenary on the definition of rebellion. She even requested to take the podium beside the resource speakers to deliver what she called an "academic discourse" on martial law.

"If there is such a rebellion, why have we never seen any such footage in the TV newscasts or on the Internet? Are we now adopting the new concept of a secret rebellion? That would be a contradiction in terms, an oxymoron, like woman who is secretly pregnant," Santiago said.

"Proclamation No. 1959 does not even claim that there is a state of actual rebellion. This, in itself, is a fatal flaw. Instead, the proclamation claims that 'heavily armed groups in the province of Maguindanao have established positions to resist government troops.' The Constitution does not impose the condition that heavily armed groups have established positions to resist. The Constitution imposes the condition that there is actual rebellion. Thus, the Proclamation does not comply with the first condition," Santiago added.

Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) chief Gen. Victor Ibrado admitted that they have no proof that “rebel groups” in Maguindanao have staged armed attacks. Ibrado said they have detected 400 "rebel groups" in the province, but they have "no reports" of actual rebellion.

Acting Justice Secretary Agnes Devanadera argued that violent clashes are not needed to prove rebellion.

"When it comes to rebellion, we had a situation, based on the reports, that the armed groups were already, in effect, depriving the chief executive of its powers to enforce the law. They were already having their own organization, they were already having their own government. It is not something that is looming. It is something that is already happening," she said.

Senate outnumbered

Santiago and Locsin posed no questions to the resource speakers from the executive branch. They merely read speeches supporting their positions.

Speaking to reporters after her speech, Santiago said Locsin is “wrong” in saying that ideology has been removed as an element of rebellion with the scrapping of the anti-subversion law.

Santiago said it is futile to debate in the joint session. “We (Senate) expect to lose. We are going to the valley of death,” she said.

The two lawmakers, known for their sharp tongues, may as well have represented their respective chambers.

Seventeen senators, including Santiago, have signed a resolution opposing martial law in Maguindanao.

While the House of Representatives deferred plans to conduct informal voting among its members, House Speaker Prospero Nograles remains confident majority of congressmen are in favor of the proclamation.

So far, only 34 congressmen have signed various anti-martial law resolutions. Together with the 17 senators, only 51 lawmakers may be expected to vote against martial law.

At least 147 votes are needed to revoke martial law. The senators have conceded that the decision to revoke the proclamation depends on the congressmen, most of whom are allies of Malacañang. There are 268 congressmen and 23 senators.

Speaking to reporters, Nograles said he expects the joint session to vote on December 15 on the revocation of Proclamation No. 1959.

Nevertheless, Santiago said she is counting on the Supreme Court to immediately act favorably on petitions seeking to declare Proclamation 1959 unconstitutional.

Biazon hits Devanadera

Senator Rodolfo Biazon ended an otherwise diplomatic second day of Congress' joint session by accusing acting Justice Secretary Agnes Devanadera of wasting their time.

“Pinapaikot. Tsinutsubibo mo kami!,” Biazon said, prompting the suspension of the joint session until 4 p.m. on Monday, December 14.

Biazon was asking Devanadera to explain an earlier statement on the supposed “legal impediments by the usual requirements of the law” that justified the declaration of Martial Law.

Agnes replied: “The existence of rebellion....”

An angry Biazon cut her and shouted: “Answer my question! You are not answering my question. What were the impediments required or put on by the usual requirements of the law that is the reason why martial law was declared."

“Pinapaikot mo kami. My question is very clear. What are these impediments intended to be removed by the declaration of martial law?”

In another attempt to answer, Devanadera said: “May I just probably reconstruct the sentence. At the time the martial law was declared, what are being quelled are the rebellious acts we can regard as the impediments.”

That's when Biazon gave up pursuing his question. “Oh my God. That, to me, is not an answer....It is very clear that Secretary Devanadera, who issued that statement, did not present to us the impediments by the usual requirements of the law designed to be removed by the declaration of martial law.”

Biazon was following up questions on the presence of actual rebellion to justify the proclamation.

Critics argued that the earlier declaration of a state of emergency was sufficient in enforcing the law in Maguindanao.

Sen. Francisco Pangilinan said the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the Philippine National Police have swiftly apprehended the suspects and relieved their own members alleged to be part of Ampatuans’ private armies.

“It did not appear that they were having a difficult time doing their work,” he said, adding that if there was indeed a rebellion, it should have already been crippled by security forces.

Stuck on an issue

After 12 hours of deliberations since Wednesday, Congress' joint session failed to move on from debating the presence of “actual rebellion” to justify Proclamation No. 1959 as required by the 1987 Constitution.

One after another, critics of the proclamation pressed the representatives of the executive department to show proof of violent clashes between the so-called rebels and the government troops.

"In my heart, gusto ko ng martial law. But in my legal mind, there is no factual basis," said Senator Richard Gordon.

"If there is such a rebellion, why have we never seen any such footage in the TV newscasts or on the Internet? Are we now adopting the new concept of a secret rebellion?," Santiago said.

Acting Justice Secretary Agnes Devanadera repeatedly argued that violent clashes are not needed to prove rebellion.

"When it comes to rebellion, we had a situation based on the reports that the armed groups were already in effect depriving the chief executive of its powers to enforce the law. They were already having their own organization, they were already having their own government. It is not something that is looming. It is something that is already happening," she said.

Unconvinced, the questions continued.

Pursue murder case

Senators Francis Pangilinan, Alan Peter Cayetano, and Gordon expressed concern that the declaration of martial law could weaken the case against the Ampatuans.

While the crimes of rebellion and murder are both meted the maximum penalty of reclusion perpetua or a possible imprisonment of 40 years, charges of multiple counts of murder merit a harsher sentence.

Since 57 people were killed in the Maguindanao massacre on November 23, Pangilinan said that the perpetrators could actually be slapped with over 2000 years of imprisonment (40 years x 57).

Datu Unsay Mayor Andal Ampatuan Jr. currently faces 40 counts of murder. If found guilty, he could be jailed for 1, 600 years.

However, if the rest of the Ampatuans and other respondents were only charged with rebellion, they could be put behind bars for only 40 years at most.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) recently charged Maguindanao Gov. Andal Ampatuan Sr., Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao Gov. Zaldy Ampatuan, five other Ampatuans plus 17 others with rebellion.

Devanadera said during the interpellations, however, that after martial law was proclaimed in Maguindanao, charges of multiple murder have been filed in the court against Andal Ampatuan Jr., while complaints against 82 others are being evaluated by the DOJ.

The DOJ has insisted that even with the filing of rebellion charges, the government will still pursue separate murder raps against the suspects, if evidence so warrants.

Meanwhile, Cayetano warned that the cases built against the Ampatuans and the others could be rendered useless in the face of a possible Supreme Court ruling striking down Proclamation 1959 as unconstitutional. -- with reports from Purple S. Romero, abs-cbnNEWS.com/Newsbreak

 


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Andal Ampatuan Sr.

Cory didn't appoint or install Andal Ampatuan Sr. as Governon, Mayor or any position. When Cory became president after Edsa revolution, she replaced Andal Ampatuan Sr. who was a Mayor of Maganoy (Shariff Aquak now) with another Ampatuan, Datu Modi Ampatuan who only served 2 years in that capacity. Andal Ampatuan Sr. won the 1998 election as Governor. Here's the continuation.........

In 2001, the Ampatuan clan solidified its hold on power through a close friendship with Gloria Macapagal Arroyo when she assumed the presidency after EDSA People Power II. During the 2004 presidential elections, Arroyo dominated the polls in Shariff Aquak and most of Maguindanao. Amid speculation that cheating had occurred in Maguindanao and other Mindanao provinces, results were contested by Arroyo's main rival, popular actor Fernando Poe Jr.. The 2007 mid term elections for the Philippines senate had Maguindanao in focus once more as it was the only province that returned a 12-0 win for Arroyo's senate slate, Team Unity.[3]

In 2006, Arroyo issued Executive Order 546, allowing local officials and the police to deputize local militia to aid in the fight against insurgents. These are locally known as civilian volunteer organizations or CVOs. The Executive Order was issued shortly after an assassination attempt on Andal Ampatuan Sr.[4]

So don't blame previous president for incumbent's shortcomings. These are facts.

Andoy

ANO PA ANG HINIHINTAY NG MGA

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ANO PA ANG HINIHINTAY NG MGA AWTORIDAD? ANG MAGUINDANAO AY NASA LUGAR NG MARYIAL LAW. DAPAT AY SAMSAMIN NG GOBYERNO ANG MAHIGIT NA 20 MANSYON NA MGA AMPATUAN NA NAIPAGAWA NILA DAHIL SA PAGNANAKAW SA KABAN NG GOBYERNO. ISIPIN NA LANG NG PAMULA UMUPO SI GLORIA SA PUWESTO NOONG 2001 AY NAMAYAGPAG NA SA PAGNANAKAW SA KABAN NG MGA MAMAMAYAN IYANG MGA AMPATUAN.

IYANG MGA PADER NA NAKABAKOD SA MGA MANSIYON AY DAPAT BUWAGIN DAHIL SA KAPAL AY MALAMANG NA DOUN NAKATAGO PA RIN ANG IBANG ARMAS NA HINDI PA NATUTUKLASAN NG MGA IMBISTIGADOR.

KUNG NOONG BAGO MALAGAY SA PUWESTO ANG MGA AMPATUAN NA ANG HALAGA NG KANILANG ARI-ARIAN NOONG 2001 AY 11 MILYON NA NAKASAAD SA STAEMENT OF ASSET AND LIABILITIES (SAL)AY IYON LAMANG DAPAT NA NASA KANILA.

the burden is on the Ampatuan to prove that they earned the additional billions through honest means.

it is clear the AMPATUANS did the massacre of 57 to 200 humans. they should spend multiple life times in jail for their neardenthal crimes.

the corrupt Generals involved in the arming and selling of various arms to the Ampatuans enough to equip 3 to 5 battalions must be haunt down to answer for their crimes against the State. imagine these weapons are being used to kill civilians and soldiers.

GLORIA'S illegal stay in power for over 9years is the worst compared to other dictators including MARCOS. she prostituted all branches and agencies of the Republic. she is basically an authoritarian ruler who abuse the will of the people.

may GOD bless the Philippines! it's not yet too late!

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SENATOR PING LACSON

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ANG MGA PILIPINO AY KULANG NA KULANG O NAWALA NA ANG DISIPLINA SA SARILI. NAKIKITA NAMAN SA KAPALIGIRAN NG KAMAYNILAAN. ANG DUDUMI NG MGA LUGAR AT MAPALOT, ANG MGA TAO AY KUNG SAAN NA LANG UMIIHI AT MAGTAPON NG MGA BASURA.

ANG MGA NASA GOBYERNO NA NASA ITAAS NA PUWESTO AY PURO PAGNANAKAW NA LANG ANG INAATUPAG AT BALE WALA NA ANG MGA MAHIRAP NA MAMAMAYAN.

SI GLORIA ARROYO AY MAS MALALA PA KAY MARCOS ANG MGA KATIWALIAN. NANINIWALA BA KAYO NA MAY HUSTISYA AT DEMOKRASYA DIYAN SA PILIPINAS? SA AKING OPINYON AY WALA, DAHIL KUNG ANO ANG GUSTONG GAWIN NI GLORIA AY IYON ANG NASUSUNOD.

NOONG SI SENATOR PING LACSON ANG PNP DIRECTOR GENERAL AY LAGI KUNG NABABASA SA DIYARYO ANG PAGLALAGAY NIYA NG DISIPLINA SA BOUNG KAPULISAN NG BANSA AT TUMAAS ANG TIWALA NG MGA MAMAMAYAN SA MGA PULIS DAHIL SA TAMANG PATAKBO NI SENATOR PING LACSON.

MGA PINOY IDILAT NYO NA ANG INYONG MGA MATA DAHIL BAGO NYO MATUKALASAN SA HULI AY ANG BOUNG PILIPINAS NA ANG NASA MARTIAL LAW DAHIL SI GLORIA ARROYO AY AYAW NG UMALIS SA PUWESTO. DAHIL KAPAG WALA NG SIYA SA POSISYON NG PRESIDENTE AY ALAM NIYANG MANANAGOT SIYA SA MGA PANG-AAPI NA GINAWA NG PAMILYA NIYA SA MGA PILIPINO.

KUNG SINO MANG ANG MAGING PRESIDENTE AY DAPAT KUHANIN NILANG SI SENATOR LACSON PARA SA DILG O SA SECRETARYA NG DEFENSE.

MAGBAGO NA KAYONG MGA PILIPINO PARA DI MAHULI ANG LAHAT.

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O MY COUNTRY PHILIPPINES, A LOT OF BOGUS POLITICIAN, BOGUS PNP AND MILITARY...ALL PUBLIC SERVICES RENDERD BY BOGUS...

ONE DAY, THIS COUNTRY MAY BECOME LEADER OF OF ALL EVIL...A LOT OF POWER STRUGGLE, A LOT OF FIGHTING... A LOT OF KIDNAPPERS...

DI NA TAYO LALAYO SA SOMALIA...UNREST AND HAVOC..HIJACKING,SEA JACKING...ETC.. THATS HOW OUR LEADERS LEAD THIS COUNTRY... NOW HEADING TO ITS FINAL COUNTDOWN...


NEVER ENDING DEBATE...WASTE OF TIME...WASTE OF MONEY...

KAHIT ANO OPINYON NG SENADOR,CONGRESSMAN, AT SI JUAN DELA CRUZ... WALA SA KANILA TATANGGAP NG PAGKATALO, DAHIL ALAM NILA ANG TAMA SA KAIBUTURAN NG ISIP NILA,,, ANG PROBLEMA AYAW TANGGAPIN ANG PAGKATALO,, GUSTO LAHAT MAGING SIKAT...MAGING BIDA..
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KASI GUSTO LAHAT MAGING SIKAT SA PARAANG PAIKOT IKUTIN ANG TAO...
PRIDE ANG UMIIRAL... YAN ANG DAHILAN AT HINDI NAGING CONSTRUCTIVE ANG ISSUE...


Presidentiables nasaan kayo

Sinong kandidato pag ka Presidente na agad-agad pumunta sa maguindanao upang makatulong na maiwasan ang laganap na karahasan.
Si GIBO lang, at kong ang kay GIBO iniisip ay pamulitika dapat hindi niya tinanggal sa kampi sang mga Ampatuan, pero anong ginawa niya,tinanggal niya dahil hindi karapat dapat sa lipunang ito at kanyang prinsipyo.Mayroon bang nag sabing mga Opposwisyon na salamat GIBO, mayroon bang nag tuligsa kay GIBO bakit pumunta sa Maguindanao?
wala dahil pabor kay GIBO ang ginawa niya at kong ilalagay pa sa Dyaryo baka maraming mga botanting makaalam na tama ang ginawa niya !!DI BA!!!eh nasaan si NOYNOY, SI VILLAR , si ERAP wala manlang nasabi kahit anong sa mga Ampatuan?? dahil kabawasan ng Boto? magaling lumaro ang mga taong ito!!!
Mabuti pa si FVR ipinalabas niya ang tunay niyang nararamdaman sa ginawa ni GIBO,yan dapat ang gawin sa ibang mga critics,kaya lang hindi pwede dahil mga hipokrito kayo!!!wala kayong ibang iniisip ang maka pwesto sa goberno at gumanti at mangurakot.


Sariling Mentalidad

Lahat naman tayo may sariling pag-iisip at ideas sa isyong Martial Law sa Mindanao, pero dapat naman nating isipin kong ang ating pinag sasabi ay karapat dapat pa ba!!Dapat iniisip ng mga tumutuligsa ng Martial Law kong ano ang kanilang pinag sasabi.Ang sinabi ni Senador Santiago " away ng Ampatuan at Mangudadato lang ito!!kaya hindi dapat makialam ang goberno.Para bang hindi ako maka paniwala na bilang isang magiting at matalinong tao ay ganun nalang ang kanyang isip.Tama ka sana Senadora kong pamilya lang ang involve, ehh alam mo naman, at kayo pa mismo ang nag sasabi na may mga private armies,sintido common na yan sa ating mga isipan na lalaganap ang gulo sa dalawang pamilya na ito kong pababayaan lang ng ating goberno.
Parang mga bata ang mga senador at congresista sa usapan ito sa congreso.Kong itong mga senador na ito nag iikoty sa ating bansa at ginagamit ang kanilang mga pork barrel, di sana nakikita nila ang kalagayan sa bawat probinsya at noon pa sana ito nila ginawang issue.
Alam naman natin na ganito ang laro sa politika sa atin, mayroon bang isa manlang sa mga opposisyon o sa mga activistang groupo na kinundina ang ampatuan sa kanilang pag hahari sa Maguindanao? wala
puro lang kayo sa kalsada, rally doon rally dito, saw-saw sa mga issuing hindi mahalaga sa mamang na mga pilipino.
Akbayan, Bayan at yang mga human rights na yan bakit hindi kayo noon pa nag Rally sa Maguindanao para ikundina niyo ang mga Ampatuan dahil noon paman alam na ninyo ang sitwasyon doon.Kasi kahol ng kahol lang kayo sa kalsada, ang goberno nalang palagi ang binabantayan niyo,
bakit walang mga peryodista ,Bayan, opposisyon, akbayan at mga human rights na nag ra-rally sa NBI ,di ba nandoon si Ampatuan?? Bakit???
dahil ba sayang lang ang pagud niyo dahil hindi si Arroyo ang magiging issue dito? MGA HIPOKRITO KAYO!!
Senador Biazon, bakit ngayon kalang nag dak-dak ,isa kang militar ngayon mo lang ba nalaman ang sitwasyon sa Mindanao???Dahil nakinabang karin sa kanila,pinabayaan mo rin,dahil sa pamolitikong
interes.Marami ka rin naman boto nakuha sa Maguindanao.
Kaya sa nakikita natin sa karamihang senador alam nilang lahat ang issue na ito, sa katuwiran niloloko lang tayong mga taong bayan.


Patawa

As there are valid reasons against martial law in Maguindanao, there are likewise a thousand reasons why it should be declared.

I believe the law is there not for a govt merely to react to a situation (stupid mantra) but likewise, and foremost, to prevent a foreseen situation. And prevention is better than cure.

You have not been in Maguindanao. You would only rely on media and the internet (as Sen. Santiago blindly admitted) for information. But with pictures of high powered guns and ammunition, even the military itself were amazed, you've never seen even the over 500 people holding them. You've not even hear the many gunshots. You've seen the mansions? Just imagine how much unaccounted money the Ampatuans have. Think, just think, for a moment... How could you stop a criminal if he has massive amount of liquidity ready for disposal? Even now that the bastard is desperate?

Follow the rules? What....? The local judge couldn't even sign the arrest warrant for fear of his life and his family. Can the 23 Senators guarantee their safety?

Facilitation.... honorable senators

Kaya di na umunlad ang Pilipinas sa dami ng dakdak ng mga Senador.

Santiago is right... Politics. Alen? Sa mga pabor sa martial law? Ganun din sa mga kontra.
Obvious ba?
Patawa.


On personal note: Devenadera

On personal note: Devenadera is the lousiest justice secretary I've known to date. And she could not even compose herself well during the joint session. She acts as if she's in a class drama portraying one of a role in a grand drama scenario.

Just like Sen. Biason, it pisses me off watching this lady talk. Her answers dont make any sense. She says the same thing over and over.

A 3rd year high school girl can do that.

I'm in favor with the martial law declaration so to collect evidences of the massacre swiftly. But NOT in favor of filing ONLY a rebellion case against these ampatuan animals and have the murder raps absorbed by it.

I hope Arroyo is not that ruthless to dump the victims and their families to favor these savage criminals.


To ay naku!.....

To agree with Locsin is not all about of being a fan but it is all about of being real in the situation out here not just like you that always bear a politically minded brain. Please focus on the real situation and pray that someday you are not the one of those victims that crying out for justice.
Remember the storyline of UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE:
Much love and compassion is sent to each and every person who may read this and:

LEARN HOW TO LOVE PEOPLE AND USE THINGS-
NOT LOVE THINGS AND USE PEOPLE.

To handle yourself, use your head.
To handle others, use your heart.

God gives every bird its food, but He does not
Throw it into its nest.

For it is Gods will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men. 1 PETER 2:15


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